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January 09, 2007

Hall of Fame 2007

Congratulations to Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken Jr., the two newest members of the National Baseball Hall of Fame. They were obvious and deserving selections, and they'll do the Hall proud (although Gwynn represents, by far, the most overrated HoF player archetype: high-average singles hitters). Neither managed to squeak past Tom Seaver for highest percentage ever, but both did quite well with 97.6 and 98.5% of the votes respectively.

Remaining bridesmaids for yet another year were Goose Gossage, Bert Blyleven, and Jim Rice, all of whom will once again have to wait until next year, thanks in large part to (quite frankly) a vast number of idiots who make up a sizeable fraction of the Baseball Writers Association of America. Not that I'm overly upset over most of the vote; Gossage clearly deserves to be there, but Blyleven and Rice are on the bubble. What fascinates me are the morons who won't vote for anyone on the first ballot (news flash: nobody's plaque mentions how they ended up in the Hall) or who votes for only one outfielder/pitcher/etc. each year. Either someone is a Hall of Fame player, or they're not, and the silly games that go on with players having to agonize year after year because too many writers don't take the time to really work on their ballot. (To be fair, some writers do a very good job, but unfortunately there's enough chaff to ruin the wheat.)

Really interesting: Jim Rice remains a decent candidate, albeit the clock will probably run out on him before he gets in, but Albert Belle garnered only 19 votes and is off the ballot. When it comes to writers not doing research, that's a pretty strong indicator. Belle put up numbers that are very similar to Rice's, and did it faster than Rice. Even adjusting for the eras in which they played, I'd love to know how 327 voters justified Rice but not Belle.

Posted at January 9, 2007 12:05 PM

Andrew Olmsted

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Yes, it does appear that people play silly games. One wonders how many ballots Bonds would have been on when eligible if he wasn't clouded by the steroids issue.

Posted by: Ugh6 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 9, 2007 12:53 PM

My assumption with Belle is that he didn't play long enough. FWIW, Dayn Perry made the case for Rice at FOX.

Posted by: soccerdad [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 9, 2007 01:10 PM

I still have trouble with the Belle/Rice comp. If Belle posted numbers similar to Rice's in less time, doesn't that imply he was a better player than Rice?

Posted by: Andrew [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 9, 2007 03:29 PM

I thought Blyleven should be a lock.

Posted by: rilkefan [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 9, 2007 10:43 PM

There's definitely a breakdown in the logic applied used by sportswriters to prospective HOFers. No one's arguing about the highest tier, the sheer greats who can't be denied. This year, that included Ripkin and Gwynn. Inexplicably, the writers then inflict punishment on the 'near great' tier, presumably by comparing them (unfairly) to all-time greats. This ignores the fact that the Hall is populated by many players who merely reached the 'near great' plateau. In my era, Billy Williams and Robin Yount come to mind, both wonderful players who deserve to be in the Hall, yet whose careers are hardly distinguishable from others currently standing on the 2nd tier (Gossage and Blylevin, e.g.) Williams and Yount never reached Ripkin or Seaver levels of excellence. But they were nonetheless worthy.

Bottom-line, sportwriters need to have a bigger tent.

Posted by: ckreiz [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 05:26 AM

Could it also be that sportwriters, like ordinary Joes, are star-struck, incapable of picking out a gem like Blylevin because he wasn't a celebrity who played on great team? Just a thought. (That doesn't explain why Gwynn, not a high profile player, got a 1st ballot nod). BTW, I scanned rilkefan's link on Blylevin: 5th all-time in strikeouts and the guy's not in the Hall? What does a guy have to do?

Posted by: ckreiz [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 05:32 AM

Sorry to comment again- but this comment evoked a thought: (although Gwynn represents, by far, the most overrated HoF player archetype: high-average singles hitters). In contrast, Rilkefan's link refers to the most underrepresented group- 3rd basemen and catchers. Imagine that- HofF voters have unexamined biases and prejudices.

Posted by: ckreiz [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 07:26 AM

Bill James has done some good work regarding the dearth of 3B in the Hall. He came to the conclusion (although this was several years ago and he may have changed his mind since) that because 3B is a position that requires a unique balance of glove work and hitting, voters have a hard time locating the good 3Bs. HoF voters are good at identifying single areas of greatness. That's why high-average singles hitters get to walk into the Hall while Ron Santo still has to buy a ticket. But voters are less good at identifying greatness along multiple axes. He wasn't a 3B, but Dwight Evans is a good example of this. Evans will never be in the Hall, but there's an argument to be made he was every bit as good a player as Rice. The problem being, Evans did lots of things well, but none of them as well as the one thing Jim Rice did well.

To put it in another language, HoF voters like hedgehogs, not foxes.

Posted by: Andrew [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 10:24 AM

Your Santo comments are spot on. They also apply to catching, which requires multiple talents such as calling pitches and managing pitchers. Baseball Analysts, the link above, discusses Dwight Evans v. Jim Rice, a comparison of which I knew nothing. In a broader sense, the human perception issue (in this case, single v. multiple axes) is a fascinating one because it reveals the dominance of our preconceptions- one of your favorite and consistent themes. Reminds me of the "Moneyball" discussion regarding scouts, who tend to make generalizations in assessing talent (i.e., 'speed is important') without regard to lesser known skills (ie., walks = singles). It's damn difficult to identify, much less admit, one's own preconceptions- in any endeavor. Great stuff, Major.

Posted by: ckreiz [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 11:29 AM

Some guy named MD wrote this comment at Baseball Analysts:

Unless you're a no-brainer, there are reasons to vote for someone and reasons not to, and most of the writers seem to avoid the cognitive dissonance and rely on the ones that support their gut instinct.

That's what I meant to say- it just took me 5 times longer to say it.

Posted by: ckreiz [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 01:48 PM

Well, that's how the majority of us make most of our decisions, so I suppose it's not surprising. It is, however, frustrating.

Posted by: Andrew [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 03:05 PM

Posted by: rilkefan [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 03:07 PM

Thanks, rilkefan. I recall having read some assessments that went that far, but without the data in front of me I didn't want to make that claim.

Posted by: Andrew [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2007 04:08 PM

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