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« The Market State | Main | J.F. Nixon? » March 15, 2004Kerry, Bush, and VietnamI talked about the similarities between George W. Bush and John Kerry's attempts to evade military service in Vietnam last week. At the time I was challenged as to the evidence regarding Kerry's attempts to avoid service in Vietnam, so I decided to take a closer look. Let me start out with a few disclaimers: I am in no way trying to take anything away from what John Kerry did in Vietnam. He earned a Silver Star and a Bronze Star for his service in Swift boats, and was apparently highly regarded by his men (with one notable recent exception). There is no doubt that Kerry provided yeoman service to his country in Vietnam, and he deserves credit for that. I was merely curious to see whether or not his actions were really all that different from George W. Bush's. President Bush is on record admitting that he had no real desire to go to Vietnam. So he joined the Texas Air National Guard and learned to fly F-102s, a dangerous aircraft that started to phase out two years prior to the end of his committment. As he wasn't planning on continuing his service beyond his obligation, Bush stopped flying when the F-102 was phased out and spent his last 18 months in the Guard performing other duties. He then left the Guard eight months before the end of his obligation in order to attend Harvard Business School. John Kerry never sought to avoid active military duty. The son of a military pilot, Kerry did actively seek to serve his country. He did so by joining the Navy as a sailor, an occupation that was not known for spending a great deal of time in Vietnam. Kerry also tried to have his service deferred for a year so he could study in Paris. There's nothing at all wrong with that: the Navy needed people in places other than Vietnam, and Kerry was hardly alone (and certainly no different from George W. Bush) in preferring not to end up getting shot at in the jungles of Vietnam. Kerry's first tour was on board the USS Gridley, a frigate in support of aircraft carriers in the Gulf of Tonkin (presumably where he learned about aircraft carriers). Kerry was then required to go through retraining, and he volunteered for the swift boats, a duty that was at the time akin to Coast Guard duty, cruising the Vietnam coast and stopping civilian vessels for inspection. Once again, Kerry was seeking an assignment that would keep him away from the war, something he admits (and again, it's nothing to be ashamed of). Unfortunately for Kerry, the swift boats' mission was changed two weeks after he arrived in Vietnam, and instead of serving a safe tour, Kerry ended up going into heavy action. To his great credit, he served there with distinction, as noted previously. After accumulating three Purple Hearts while losing only two duty days, Kerry requested an early return from Vietnam, which was granted. Assigned as an aide to an Admiral, Kerry then decided he wanted to get into politics, so he asked for an early release from his commitment and got it, leaving the Navy six months early in order to run for Congress and protest the Vietnam War. Clearly there are significant differences between President Bush's service in Vietnam and John Kerry's. Were this election a referendum on what each man did in Southeast Asia, Kerry would be the clear candidate. Yet I can't help thinking that aside from Kerry's actual actions in Vietnam, the two men don't have as much separating them as people think. Both tried to avoid service in Vietnam, Bush through the Guard, Kerry through the Navy. Kerry deserves credit for still joining the active force, but it's clear he wasn't champing at the bit to get into the war, he just wanted to do his duty and go home. He did what he could to avoid getting any closer to Vietnam than necessary, and he left as quickly as he could. When he got home, both Kerry and Bush were able to get out of their obligations early to pursue personal business. Again, Kerry deserves great credit for what he actually did while he was in Vietnam; my point is only that the image he now cultivates of the marked contrast to President Bush is, at least in part, an accident. Had Kerry gotten what he wanted, he would never have had to fire a shot in anger, and the only difference between his service and President Bush's would be that Kerry did serve on active duty while Bush was a reservist. Are the two equivalent? No. But I the evidence seems to show that the two men's attempts to avoid Vietnam were more similar than people would now believe. Having said that, I don't think it makes a big difference (although, having read some of the accounts of Kerry's service in Vietnam, I am more impressed with him than I was before, so doubtless it will give him an electoral advantage, and I don't know that that is necessarily a bad thing). While what the two men did 30 years ago is certainly an indicator of their characters, both men have been in public life long enough to have far more recent examples to examine. Posted at March 15, 2004 05:18 PM
Trackback PingsTrackBack URL for this entry: CommentsThanks for you analysis. I think it sheds appropriate light on the two men and their military service. One thing puzzles me. His bio shows Navy service from 66-70. Then reserve service from 72-78. I didn't know of any service contract that allowed for only four years of service. Hence my question is: did Kerry resign his commission and actually get an honorable discharge in 1970, or did he simply request transfer to the Individual Ready Reserve? I joined the Naval Air Reserve in 1966 and my obligation didn't end until 1972. I got out of active reserve duty in 1970 at my request. Likewise, chance is everything. The only action I did to become a Vietnam Veteran was volunteer for P-3 air crew. The rest was random. And I had no choice about ending up in P-3s as opposed to any other Naval Air assignment. My friend who signed up with me spent 2 years in the Tonkin Gulf working on the flight deck of the Ticonderoga. Again, random chance. I will definitely be voting against Kerry. His behavior when he came back from the war was disgraceful in the extreme, and unlike Bush, there is no evidence that his character has changed significantly since he was in High School. His testimony before the Senate was seriously damaging propaganda from a decorated war hero, and it was largely false (and hence perjurious unless Kerry was so dumb that he actually believed what he was saying). I consider the US abandonment of Vietnam, after we had a winning position, to be one of the most disgraceful things this country has ever done, and Kerry's actions and choice of organizations was very poor. It was possible to demonstrate against the war without lying about it under oath, and millions did. It was possible to write a book about the war without demeaning both the American flag and the sacrifice on Iwo Jima in the cover picture. It was possible to work against the war in organizations which didn't meet directly with the enemy in Paris, and then put forward as their own proposal the exact negotiating position of the enemy. Posted by: John Moore (Useful Fools) at March 16, 2004 12:37 AM I can't speak to what the requirements were back then, but I know that my commitment when I graduated ROTC was four years of active service and eight years of total service. Posted by: Andrew at March 16, 2004 07:37 AM Excellent post and research, Andrew. Posted by: Gary Farber at March 16, 2004 09:29 AM I'd just say that people who are born with leadership ability tend to do well in whatever their situation. Who is to say that GW Bush, if forced into Vietnam service, would have fared any differently than Kerry? At least neither one of them ran off to Canada to avoid service altogether. Posted by: Rick at March 16, 2004 09:56 AM Excellent post and research, Andrew. Mark the day! Praise from Caesar! ;) Rick, While what-ifs can be interesting topics of conversation, I think that in the final analysis we should give credit for what actually happened and not for what might have happened. Posted by: Andrew at March 16, 2004 03:13 PM "unlike Bush, there is no evidence that his character has changed significantly since he was in High School." Yeah, Kerry didn't snort nearly as much coke or drive drunk nearly as much... "organizations which didn't meet directly with the enemy in Paris" you mean like the US Government? http://www.nv.cc.va.us/home/nvsageh/Hist277/DanielFiles/Kissinger.html Posted by: Eugene Koontz at March 30, 2004 12:00 AM It comes down to this : while Kerry was living the easy life cruising around on a boat in the tropics, Bush was risking his life defending our border from bloodthirsty Mexicans. That would be enough to make an alcoholic cokehead out of any man. So I definitely understand how W's character is much stronger than Kerry's. Posted by: Eugene Koontz at March 30, 2004 12:07 AM What Kerry did upon returning from Vietnam was disgraceful. I don't know how anyone who served in Vietnam, or in the military, could ever consider supporting Kerry. He overstated his "combat" injuries so he could collect his Purple Hearts and get the hell out of Vietnam as fast as possible. Then he got back to the States, teamed up with Hanoi Jane, and accused his fellow soldiers of the worst kinds of crimes against humanity. It's so damn amusing to see Dems make military service so important all of a sudden. Where were all these pro-military service Dems in 1992 when Clinton, a draft dodger who is strongly anti-military, ran against Bush 1, a genuine WWII hero. Bush 1 never once made an issue of Clinton being a draft dodger during their 1992 campaign. The difference is that Bush 1 has character, and John Kerry does not. Posted by: Pam at April 23, 2004 02:08 PM Those who have never served their country in combat should not criticize those who have. And those who use their military service to achieve a personal aim, do not honor their fallen brothers. A true hero does not openly laud his service to his country; but rather becomes the quiet voice of pride for those who made the ultimate sacrifice. A Vietnam Veteran 1968 Posted by: Sammy Latour at April 28, 2004 08:27 AM |